Travel to Johannesburg, South Africa – Episode 211

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The Amateur Traveler talks to Ilana Fayerman from Project Explorer about Johannesburg, South Africa. Project Explorer creates educational videos for kids and Ilana is one of the video hosts. 

She traveled to Johannesburg to meet its people, experience its culture and eat something very weird (see picture). She will take us on a virtual tour of neighborhoods like Newtown where she will introduce us to the New Market Theatre.

She will take us into the township of Soweto. Out of the poverty of Soweto has come some of the hope of South Africa. It boasts the only street in the world (Vilakazi Street) to have produced two winners of the Nobel Peace Prize.

Ilana will also tell us which game animal is the tastiest and what happens when you put too much Chakalaka on your pap. We will dance in gumboots, take a safari to KwaZulu-Natal, learn when you can join a drum circle, lunch with art and visit the cradle of Human Kind.

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Show Notes

Project Explorer
Ilana Fayerman
Newtown, Johannesburg
Moving into Dance
Apartheid Museum




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by Chris Christensen

Chris Christensen is the creator of the Amateur Traveler blog and podcast. He has been a travel creator since 2005 and has won awards including being named the "Best Independent Travel Journalist" by Travel+Leisure Magazine.

5 Responses to “Travel to Johannesburg, South Africa – Episode 211”

Ilana Fayerman


Thanks for the opportunity to talk about all-things Jozi, Chris! I just wanted to take a moment to acknowledge that I misspoke when we were briefly discussing Gumboot dancing. I DID mention that the dance form was born in the mines of South Africa. When we were discussing the workers, themselves, I SHOULD have said that the conditions in the mines were horrible, almost slave-like; however, the miners were not, in fact, slaves.



Ilana’s discussion of her visit to Johannesburg included several inaccuracies that need to be pointed out.

Johannesburg is referred to locally as Joburg and NOT Josies.

The mine workers, had horrible working conditions, but there were NEVER slaves. They were very lowly paid laborers that came from different parts of Southern Africa and that’s the reason that they created the mine unique language so that they could communicate with each other.

It’s a pity she did not really do her homework.



I just wanted to say thank you for having such an animated guest on. Ilana was so passionate about Joburg and all the great things you can do and see there, that I found myself smiling while listening to the podcast at work. It was genuinely exciting to hear about a destination that I wouldn’t have normally considered myself interested in. Thank you for enlightening me about another great holiday destination.



Really enjoyed this interview. Llana was a fantastic guest (one of the best I’ve heard on the show IMHO) and I hope you have her on the show again. It seems like a lot of travelers elect to skip over Joburg entirely…or quickly hit the Apartheid museum and get out of dodge. This interview gave me some great ideas and a much better sense of the city. I’m pumped for my visit later this year!

Daniel Gardner


Going to Joesies on Monday, and later to Mozambique. What a great podcast before the trip, thanks!

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